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Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.29 13:53:00 - [1] Originally by: Xianthar Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker i think the biggest hit to HACs will be the Drake, however HAC will still have their place due to speed and agility. drake has better fire power than the cerb so yea i think the cerb price should drop alot (thank god) and to the other guy on the prices...nighthawk costs me 80mil, cerb costs almost 200mil. -xian Might want to check your facts.... Cerb: 6x Launcher Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage and 10% bonus to Missile velocity per level Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus Light and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level So at Cruiser 5, HAC 5 the Cerb gets a 50% bonus to damage with kinetic missiles and a 25% bonus to damage with regular missiles: 6x 1.5 = 9 launcher equiv Cerb also gets a 100% bonus to range on missiles making it reach out and touch to over 200km at best levels. Now look at the Drake: 5% bonus to resists & 5% bonus to missile rof for Assault, heavy and heavy assault launchers. So at max BC level the Drake gets a 25% bonus to dmg with missiles 7 x 1.25 = 8.75 (less firepower than Cerb w/o a railgun in slot 8) No range bonus so it's locked to ranges of around 125km or so. It's a better tank but the cerb both out-damages (a bit) it and out-ranges it (a lot). Not to mention the much higher speed/maneuverability. No... Cerb is still the superior ship, as it should be.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.29 14:17:00 - [2] Originally by: Deathbarrage Originally by: Taram Caldar Originally by: Xianthar Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker i think the biggest hit to HACs will be the Drake, however HAC will still have their place due to speed and agility. drake has better fire power than the cerb so yea i think the cerb price should drop alot (thank god) and to the other guy on the prices...nighthawk costs me 80mil, cerb costs almost 200mil. -xian Might want to check your facts.... Cerb: 6x Launcher Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage and 10% bonus to Missile velocity per level Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus Light and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level So at Cruiser 5, HAC 5 the Cerb gets a 50% bonus to damage with kinetic missiles and a 25% bonus to damage with regular missiles: 6x 1.5 = 9 launcher equiv Cerb also gets a 100% bonus to range on missiles making it reach out and touch to over 200km at best levels. Now look at the Drake: 5% bonus to resists & 5% bonus to missile rof for Assault, heavy and heavy assault launchers. So at max BC level the Drake gets a 25% bonus to dmg with missiles 7 x 1.25 = 8.75 (less firepower than Cerb w/o a railgun in slot 8) No range bonus so it's locked to ranges of around 125km or so. It's a better tank but the cerb both out-damages (a bit) it and out-ranges it (a lot). Not to mention the much higher speed/maneuverability. No... Cerb is still the superior ship, as it should be. bar the fact that cerb has 5 launchers, not 6 DOH I sit corrected! I knew it had 6 high slots... didn't realize only 5 launchers. You are correct. Hmmm 5x1.5dmg = 7.5 launcher equiv (so yeah the Drake outguns it a bit.. though the cerb does have much longer range and maneuverability.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.29 14:18:00 - [3] Originally by: 2SecondsTilMidnight Also cerb can't use drones, drake can use a few That is something I always wondered about. Why would you take away the cerb's drone bay? Kinda baffled me.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.29 17:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Imhotep Khem Yes, Tier 2 BC will punch the HAC market nicely. A well fit Tier 1 BC can already take a HAC, let alone a Tier 2. Plus Tier 2 BC BPO will be readily available which means the ships will be in large supply, even in 00 space. Also lets not forget the high insurance payout for Tech 1 ships. HAC market will feel the pressure of tier 2 BC. IMO a good thing... hacs are way overpriced

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